Sunday, August 23, 2009

SYTYCA & Thoughts on Standardization

Billy2Times Krams hosting Disney trivia and Best in Disney at Metal Shop on August 17.

If you can decipher the set of letters in the title of this post, then I would, as a trivia host, interpret that to mean that it's a commonly enough known -- or at least easily enough understood -- acronym or abbreviation to be accepted as an answer at one of my games.

If not, then as far as I'm concerned, it's just a shortcut to try and squeeze ahead of the other players who are typing their butts off to get "So You Think You Can Abbreviate" into play before the others who are likewise typing furiously.

This is the basis of my "out of context" rule by which I judge typos and abbreviation use. If it's a common abbreviation that you most likely used because that's how you're accustomed to referring to the person/place/thing in question (or answer, more accurately), then go for it. NASA, ASPCA, Rte, St, FDR, JFK, whatever... these are all fair game because other players are likely to have used them, too, and they know exactly what you're talking about.*

* Of course, if a person hasn't heard of the entity the abbreviation refers to at all and wouldn't know it even if "American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals" were spelled out, then the problem isn't the abbreviation.

Finding the absolute shortest version of an answer you can give and still get away with it, on the other hand, is not. Not in my book.

In terms of the spectrum of hosting styles, I fall someplace in the middle. At one end, there are hosts who accept anything they can understand, knowing what the player was probably trying to say. At the other end, there are hosts who accept no abbreviations whatsoever. A few follow the guideline "none except UK and USA." I have the feeling that these stricter hosts have a goal in mind similar to mine -- to curb the Incredible Shrinking Answer trend before it begins -- but for my part, I don't want to penalize someone who uses an abbreviation not to see what they can get away with but because the version of the answer they use is the one that is freshest in their minds.

Although I am generally respectful of other hosts' decisions, the acceptance of abbreviations that are clearly intended as shortcuts makes me shake my head every time. I apologize to those whom this confession insinuates, and I acknowledge that every host is entitled to run his or her game however he or she chooses. I have recently gotten into two tiffs over abbreviations, however, that sparked this as a blog topic.

The first took place while I was hosting Chaos. For those who haven't been to Chaos Trivia/Truth or Dare, I'll mention that those who win questions are given L$10 and the chance to challenge another player to a truth or dare. I asked a question to which "North Pole" was the answer, and the person whose answer came in first used "NPole" as a shortcut abbreviation. Since it was only a minor shortcut (it's not like he tried to say "NP") and he had arrived late and had never heard me give my rules, I gave him the benefit of the doubt, which meant compromising: I gave him the money and offered the truth/dare challenge to the second person who answered. Imagine my surprise when he protested that I should give him a break because he is in a country far from the SL servers and that this gives him more lag than most.

This is a ridiculous argument for many reasons, but I'll only mention one: everyone in SL suffers from lag. One article on lag identifies nine different kinds. The one this player was being huffy about, referred to in the piece as "pure network lag," is right at the top. Unless he believes that special treatment should be provided to people experiencing any of the other eight kinds of lag, I'm uncertain why I should provide it to him. Is there such a thing as privileged lag? Does that make the other kinds ghetto lag?

But I digress.

The second incident just took place this weekend. The answer was "New Yorker" (as in the magazine, not a New York resident), and the first answer given was "NYer." I was second with the correct answer. When the host gave the question to the other player, I had to re-read the chat log because I hadn't seen anyone answer correctly before I did. I'm a former New Yorker. I subscribe to The New Yorker. And I have never seen the abbreviation NYer before. I didn't recognize it as an answer at all. So for my one time in a thousand, I spoke up, made some comments, and quickly apologized for doing so. The apology was directed toward the host, who I was worried would think I was protesting his call, and to the group. It was not directed toward the person who used this abbreviation.

Alanna Robianni, dressed as Cinderella, won the top spot in the costume contest; I won second as an Alice in Wonderland card painting the roses red; a wee little Snow White snagged third.

This leads me to the purposeful part of this post, which was not actually intended to become a rant about abbreviations. Rather, I want to use the abbreviation example as a jumping-off point to talk about standard expectations. When you do trivia at club Shiraz, you expect leniency. When you attend Lou's Clues, you expect to type out your answers in full. The UK/USA rule seems to be fast becoming standardized, though, adopted as it's been by hosts at Lilly's, at Moysies, and sometimes at Double Standards.

There are some advantages to standardization: players can have an idea of what will and won't be acceptable even if they miss the rules, for instance, and consistency allows players to develop habits that will benefit them. By this latter one, I have in mind the "training" that Gogomodo has given to many who forget that when they do trivia with a live host, they can often skip first names when the answer is a person.

There are also some disadvantages, not the least of which is that no matter how many hosts adopt comparable rules, the trivia circuit does not begin and end with the several dozen of us who know each other, host each other, and run into each other at the same games. Grassroots trivia will continue popping up at random clubs, and some active hosts will simply have different opinions about what qualifies as an acceptable answer. Thus, a player who gets used to the UK/USA rule might find herself frustrated, like I was on Sunday for other reasons, at places that are either more or less strict.

The main disadvantage to standardization in my mind, though, is something that can already be seen in the trivia landscape in its current state. I'm so accustomed to certain conventions that when I visit a game off the beaten path and find they have a rather unusual format, I'll often be hit by a wave of snobbery before I take a step back and remind myself, "It's not wrong, it's different." Admittedly, most of the time, I do end up disliking those other methods (such as answers in IM, voicing during events, anything that replaces live hosts with a machine of some sort), but you never know when a gem will appear. These instances are more about format than rules, but it's easier to develop a sense of "how things are supposed to work" if they work the same way at most of the events you go to, and that sense can easily translate into snobbery, elitism, or know-it-all-ness, which I believe was one of the factors that had precipitated the problems at The Village, way back in ancient history.

I don't have a firm conclusion, since I would selfishly prefer not to get cranky over a lenient abbreviation call again, while at the same time I think that maintaining a diverse set of events that cater to varying skill levels, speed levels, and specializations would render the strongest benefit to the most people. Borrowing or adapting another host's rules is also not necessarily standardization; sometimes you just think it's a good idea. I get pleased when I've seen hosts pick up a rule that I originated, and goodness knows I've developed my style under the influence of many strong predecessors. What I like to see is evolution, though, with hosts using others' rules and ideas but making them their own. SL trivia is totally different from how it was a year ago, with all sorts of innovative games and a schedule simply crammed solid with events. I look forward to seeing how it continues evolving.

Vegas Ember owns Metal Shop.

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Thursday, August 20, 2009

I'm gonna try something kind of fun today. I hope. It's meta-trivia, folks, the kind that you won't know if you're strolling onto this blog from some random corner of the internet. And it's audience participation time.

As most Buccaneer Bowl regulars know, writing trivia for the game is a collaborative effort. Lillian, Thorn, and I all write a portion of the questions and give each other copies a few days before the event so that we can look them over and suggest any changes necessary. The three of us have very different areas of expertise, so we can see each other's questions from different angles to make sure they're tight and solid. Other games can make up for faulty questions by simply paying more than one player, but with Bucc Bowl's system of points and accumulated scores, there's more than cash riding on each one, and as we found out the hard way in the first couple of months, a problem question can create much more havoc than usual.

The matter of who writes each question comes up occasionally. Lillian has said that Josh guesses whose they are after they've been asked and has a fairly good record. Yesterday, I quizzed Lotus when she said she believed she was usually able to tell, and I believe she met with a few surprises. So now I'm curious. First, I'm curious if this is something the players generally think about, and second, I'm curious if they know us as well as they think.

Below is the full list of non-bonus questions from the July game. Even further below is the list of answers. As an added benefit, publishing this list can help some people who haven't yet decided to join us get a feel for what goes on there, and it gives people who don't know me, Thorn, and Lillian a reason for reading this post. If you haven't figured it out yet, your job is to guess which Bucc Bowl host wrote which of the questions. Although other members of the crew might have helped revise or rewrite a question, you're looking for the particular person who originally contributed it to the game.

I'm also going to borrow a practice from Lotus and offer prizes for the most correct guesses. Since I don't do this regularly, I am happy to give out healthy prizes for it. For first, second, and third place: L$100, L$50, and L$25. The contest will be over 24 hours after I publish the post. Please submit your answers in the blog comments.

Now, don't forget... you're not guessing the answers to the questions, you're guessing who wrote which: Lette Ponnier, Lillian Shippe, or Thornton Writer. I mean, you can answer the questions; I just won't be paying you for it.

Anyone who already knows the answers (that means you, Josh; Lotus can play because I only went through the June game with her) obviously can't participate. But if people enjoy this, we can do it following future Bucc Bowls, and anyone who does not learn the answers ahead of time will be welcome to compete for this little extra somethin' then. Here we go....

Maggie, Rain, and NonSmokerGirl alongside Maggie's trivia Wheel of Death.

In the comments section of the blog, list which Buccaneer Bowl host you believe contributed each question to the game. This contest will run from 11:00am SLT Thursday, August 20, to 11:00am SLT Friday, August 21.

Edited to add:

Oh... let me add one thing... and Circe can revise her answer if she wants to... but the total number of questions written by each of us in this list was:


Thorn - 6

Lillian - 9

Lette - 10


because Thorn had not been feeling well and Lil and I picked up the slack.


July 2009 Buccaneer Bowl Questions:

1. Field Marshal Paulus surrendered the German Sixth Army to the Russians in what battle of World War II?

2. Which of the main categories of cloud, with a name meaning "curl of hair," forms at the highest altitudes?

3. What is the only Great Lake to be completely within the borders of the USA?

4. In The Odyssey, a minor character and weapons thief named Melanthius ends up with his nose, ears, hands, and feet chopped off, but what additional body part was not only removed but fed to the dogs?

5. A cracked Tinamou egg at Cambridge University is the last of what naturalist's collection of specimens acquired during his research in this bird's native continent?

6. Omar Fierro is the former host of the Mexican version of what game show that is called "Svoya Igra" in Russia, "Riesgo!" in Spain, and "Waagstuk!" in the Netherlands?

7. What opera written by Guiseppe Verdi ended with Violetta dead in Alfredo's arms from tuberculosis?

8. What is the name of a series of comic books released in 2001 based on a fictional comic referenced in two Kevin Smith movies?

9. Tribology is the study of what?

10. To be classified as a "true" mineral, a substance must be solid, arising from geological processes, and have what kind of structure?

11. In the 1971 song "Hocus Pocus" by Dutch band focus, lead singer Thijs van Leer whistled, sang operatic falsetto, and practiced what other vocal technique?

12. What musical instrument does Jack steal from the beanstalk giant?

13. What was the nickname of the Bell X-1 plane that was the first to break the speed barrier?

14. Who is the Greek Muse of History?

15. In 2006, the Egyptian government voted not to recognize members of what religion on identification cards?

16. Thimphu is the capital of what Asian country?

17. Oddly, nineteenth century English actor Nutcombe Gould pursued his theatrical career after leaving the clergy due to what condition?

18. What metal was first discovered by amateur geologist William Gregor in Cornwall in 1791 and named for a race of powerful Greek deities?

19. What fuel powered the internal combustion engine patented by Samuel Morey in 1826?

20. What was the American horse Sir Barton the first to do in 1919?

21. The American Medical Association was founded in 1847 in what city?

22. What color is the ring furthest to the left on the Olympic Flag?

23. What Canadian province capital is located in the Red River Valley, in the south central portion of its province?

24. What sport did J.M. Barrie's amateur team the Allahakbarries play?

25. What instrument did vanished bandleader Glenn Miller play?

Sharon, proprietress of Sharon's, with Carrie, right, and the less-elusive-than-previously Nelly in the background.

July 2009 Buccaneer Bowl Answers:

1. Stalingrad

2. cirrus

3. Michigan

4. his genitals

5. Charles Darwin

6. Jeopardy!

7. La Traviata

8. Bluntman and Chronic

9. lubricants, lubrication, and/or friction

10. crystal

11. yodeling

12. harp

13. Glamorous Glennis

14. Clio/Kleio

15. Baha'i

16. Bhutan

17. stammer/stutter

18. titanium

19. turpentine

20. win the Triple Crown

21. Philadelphia

22. blue

23. Winnipeg

24. cricket

25. trombone

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Sunday, August 16, 2009

Typos of the Week, August 9 through August 15

NUMBER 10:
[2009/08/15 10:54] Circe Falta: aries aquarisu
[2009/08/15 10:54] Lette Ponnier: aquarirus aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Cully Andel: aries aquaruius
[2009/08/15 10:54] AnaMaria Quintessa: aquirisu aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Lotus Ceriano: areiea aqURIUS
[2009/08/15 10:54] Cinna Xaris: aqauris aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Maelstrom Janus: aquariyus aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Gillian Morigi: awuiariies
[2009/08/15 10:54] Sweejen Stourmead: aries aquiarius
[2009/08/15 10:54] Gillian Morigi: ares
[2009/08/15 10:54] Mademoiselle Larsson: aries auqrius

NUMBER 9:
[2009/08/09 18:44] Olmstead Fanshaw: man and sujpoermanad

NUMBER 8:
[2009/08/10 12:49] Trebor Shelman: pfrtp;eijm

NUMBER 7:
[15:44] Cully Andel: nationae qenwuirireie

NUMBER 6:
[2009/08/11 21:10] Rach Borkotron: sca;lp[p

NUMBER 5:
Lillian Shippe: aoklkahona

NUMBER 4:
[2009/08/10 13:14] Cully Andel: antaracita
[2009/08/10 13:14] Karmel Kips: antarctia
[2009/08/10 13:14] Rickson Barbosa: antartica
[2009/08/10 13:14] Lebn Bucyk: antarcticA
[2009/08/10 13:15] Ceili Lane: antaractica
[2009/08/12 12:45] Lette Ponnier: antarcitca
[2009/08/12 12:45] Sharon Scofield: antarcica
[2009/08/12 12:45] Becki Verne: antactica

NUMBERS 2 & 3:
[2009/08/09 19:53] Jynks Clawtooth: amercia
[2009/08/09 19:53] Taylor Serendipity: amenrc
[2009/08/09 19:53] Taylor Serendipity: a

[2009/08/15 15:39] Lotus Ceriano: broitani

NUMBER 1:
[18:35] Starla Gurbux: offider and a gngeglea

Honey Potez, Reke Wezzog, and Laertes Parx on gender switch night at Shiraz.

NUMBER 10 (THE MASS TYPOAGE AWARD THIS WEEK GOES TO THORN):
[2009/08/15 10:54] Thornton Writer: Q15) Name the two signs of the zodiac that start with the letter A
[2009/08/15 10:54] Circe Falta: aries aquarisu
[2009/08/15 10:54] Lette Ponnier: aquarirus aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Cully Andel: aries aquaruius
[2009/08/15 10:54] AnaMaria Quintessa: aquirisu aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Lotus Ceriano: areiea aqURIUS
[2009/08/15 10:54] Cinna Xaris: aqauris aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Maelstrom Janus: aquariyus aries
[2009/08/15 10:54] Gillian Morigi: awuiariies
[2009/08/15 10:54] Sweejen Stourmead: aries aquiarius
[2009/08/15 10:54] Gillian Morigi: ares
[2009/08/15 10:54] Mademoiselle Larsson: aries auqrius
[2009/08/15 10:54] Thornton Writer: ANSWER: ARIES AND AQUARIUS

NUMBER 9:
[2009/08/09 18:44] Honey Potez: What is the name of the play written by George Bernard Shaw that was inspired by the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche?
[2009/08/09 18:44] Olmstead Fanshaw: man and sujpoermanad
[2009/08/09 18:44] Honey Potez: MAN AND SUPERMAN

NUMBER 8:
[12:49] AnaMaria Quintessa: Q19. WHAT WORD, A GLOBALLY IMPORTANT ENERGY RESOURCE, LITERALLY MEANS "OIL FROM ROCKS" IN GREEK?
[12:49] Trebor Shelman: pfrtp;eijm
[12:49] AnaMaria Quintessa: THE ANSWER IS PETROLEUM

NUMBER 7:
Lucki Schridde shouts: GNAT SHIN ALLEN CHOIR ORE
[15:44] Cully Andel: nationae qenwuirireie
NATIONAL ENQUIRER

NUMBER 6:
[2009/08/11 21:09] Blaize Korobase: 13. A gentle massage of this area in the shower will ease his tension or arouse him the very moment. This action will bridge to desire and make him anticipate for more.
[2009/08/11 21:10] Rach Borkotron: sca;lp[p
[2009/08/11 21:10] Blaize Korobase: THE SCALP

NUMBER 5:
Lillian Shippe: aoklkahona
OKLAHOMA

NUMBER 4 (AND WORD OF THE WEEK):
[2009/08/10 13:14] AnaMaria Quintessa: Q25. MOUNT VINSON IS THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN ON WHICH CONTINENT?
[2009/08/10 13:14] Cully Andel: antaracita
[2009/08/10 13:14] Karmel Kips: antarctia
[2009/08/10 13:14] Rickson Barbosa: antartica
[2009/08/10 13:14] Lebn Bucyk: antarcticA
[2009/08/10 13:15] Ceili Lane: antaractica
[2009/08/10 13:15] AnaMaria Quintessa: THE ANSWER IS ANTARCTICA

[2009/08/12 12:45] Lotus Ceriano: WHERE ARE THE MCMURDO DRY VALLEYS, WHERE REPUTEDLY THERE HAS BEEN NO PRECIPITATION IN 2 MILLION YEARS?
[2009/08/12 12:45] Lette Ponnier: antarcitca
[2009/08/12 12:45] Sharon Scofield: antarcica
[2009/08/12 12:45] Becki Verne: antactica
[2009/08/12 12:45] Lotus Ceriano: LETTE SHARON BECKI, ANTARCTICA

NUMBERS 2 & 3 (TIE FOR THE IRONY AWARD):
[2009/08/09 19:53] Honey Potez: Name the artist: 1972 - "Horse With No Name"
[2009/08/09 19:53] Jynks Clawtooth: amercia
[2009/08/09 19:53] Taylor Serendipity: amenrc
[2009/08/09 19:53] Taylor Serendipity: a
[2009/08/09 19:53] Honey Potez: AMERICA

[2009/08/15 15:39] Chaddington Boomhauer: 12. On this day in 1940 Ernest McNab shot the first German plane down, of 75 German planes were shot down that day. What battle was this during?
[2009/08/15 15:39] Lotus Ceriano: broitani
[2009/08/15 15:39] Chaddington Boomhauer: I'm going to assume that was Britain Lotus

NUMBER 1:
[18:35] Trin McMinnar: "You know something, you ain't nothin' special. You got no manners, you treat woman like whores and if you ask me you got no chance of being no officer."
[18:35] Starla Gurbux: offider and a gngeglea
[18:35] Trin McMinnar: An Officer and a Gentleman

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Typos of the Week, August 2 through August 8

While some words simply lend themselves to typos, one might also argue that writing questions that generate the largest number of typos is a hosting skill. I would thus like to give credit to those hosts who inspire the most in us as players who aim for quality in our answers over such trivial details as proper spelling.

NUMBER 10:
[2009/08/05 21:42] Lette Ponnier: cirque du solieal
[2009/08/05 21:42] Rexx Capalini: cirque de solel,l
[2009/08/05 21:42] Xes Borkotron: circe de solell
[2009/08/05 21:42] Lothor Vlodovic: cirque du soliel
[2009/08/05 21:42] Luce Portland: cirque de soleil
[2009/08/05 21:42] Thornton Writer: cirque dusoliel
[2009/08/05 21:42] Miyushu Babii: Cirque dou o
[2009/08/05 21:42] Blaize Korobase: cirque du soliel

NUMBER 9:
[2009/08/08 10:48] AnaMaria Quintessa: joshu tra
[2009/08/08 10:48] Rain Ninetails: jasuaa
[2009/08/08 10:48] bo Cordoso: joshua tre
[2009/08/08 10:48] Sweejen Stourmead: johsauya tree
[2009/08/08 10:48] Cerys Courtois: joishuA BTRREE

NUMBER 8:
[2009/08/08 12:44] Hilda Static: bachrwcch
[2009/08/08 12:44] Trebor Shelman: bacaracvh

NUMBER 7:
[2009/08/03 19:09] Jude Constantine: oatmeal coockies
[2009/08/03 19:09] Jude Constantine: cockies

NUMBER 6:
[2009/08/06 10:53] Trebor Shelman: moan;klils

NUMBER 5:
[20:10] WannaBeA Werefox: CVnada

NUMBER 4:
[2009/08/02 13:47] Chaddington Boomhauer: scarbaler
[2009/08/02 13:47] shishi Ruby: scrabblde

NUMBER 3:
[2009/08/05 21:21] Lothor Vlodovic: elephan
[2009/08/05 21:21] Rain Ninetails: elepahnt
[2009/08/05 21:33] Lothor Vlodovic: lelephnat hair
[2009/08/06 19:02] Rhea Neiro: elenapht

NUMBER 2:
[2009/08/06 18:53] Browman Griffith: englsuih
[2009/08/06 18:53] Askytyleon Proudfoot: elnhgle
[2009/08/06 18:53] Rach Borkotron: engliahs

NUMBER 1:
[14:41] Cully Andel: IT WAS SHITE STAR

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
[2009/08/07 10:14] Mark007 Bloobury: onmatoachmenidijad
[2009/08/07 10:21] Becki Verne: spelunomatopoeia
[2009/08/07 10:24] Maggie Sewell: Onomatopoeialuminescence

Me and Lillian at Inferno. I have to indulge myself and post my own pictures once in a while. :)

NUMBER 10 (MASS TYPOAGE AWARD GOES TO CIRCE):
[2009/08/05 21:42] Circe Falta: BONUS #2: WHICH CIRCUS HAS TOURED ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH TOURS NAMED QUIDAM, LA NOUBA, ALEGRIA, AND SALTIMBANCO?
[2009/08/05 21:42] Lette Ponnier: cirque du solieal
[2009/08/05 21:42] Rexx Capalini: cirque de solel,l
[2009/08/05 21:42] Xes Borkotron: circe de solell
[2009/08/05 21:42] Lothor Vlodovic: cirque du soliel
[2009/08/05 21:42] Luce Portland: cirque de soleil
[2009/08/05 21:42] Thornton Writer: cirque dusoliel
[2009/08/05 21:42] Miyushu Babii: Cirque dou o
[2009/08/05 21:42] Blaize Korobase: cirque du soliel
[2009/08/05 21:43] Circe Falta: LETTE! NICE JOB
[2009/08/05 21:43] Circe Falta: AND BROWNIE POINTS FOR XES. CIRCE DE SOLELL. LOL
[2009/08/05 21:44] Circe Falta: AND PITY POINTS TO LOTH FOR SPELLING IT RIGHT TOO I THINK. LOL
(HE DIDN'T, LOL; CORRECT SPELLING IS "CIRQUE DU SOLEIL")

NUMBER 9 (MY LAGGY ORDER PRESERVED FOR BONUS HUMOR VALUE):
[2009/08/08 10:48] AnaMaria Quintessa: joshu tra
[2009/08/08 10:48] Rain Ninetails: jasuaa
[2009/08/08 10:48] bo Cordoso: joshua tre
[2009/08/08 10:48] Sweejen Stourmead: johsauya tree
[2009/08/08 10:48] Cerys Courtois: joishuA BTRREE
[2009/08/08 10:48] Thornton Writer: Q12) WHAT 1987 U2 ALBUM CONTAINED THE NO. 1 HITS "WITH OR WITHOUT YOU" & "I STILL HAVEN'T FOUND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR"?
[2009/08/08 10:48] Thornton Writer: ANSWER: THE JOSHUA TREE

NUMBER 8:
[2009/08/08 12:44] Lou Netizen: Who worked as Marlene Dietrich's musical director when she brought her cabaret act to Vegas and, coincidentally, was later married to Rat Packer Angie Dickinson?
[2009/08/08 12:44] Hilda Static: bachrwcch
[2009/08/08 12:44] Trebor Shelman: bacaracvh
[2009/08/08 12:44] Lou Netizen: Burt Bacharach. Bacharach worked as Dietrich's bandleader, pianist, and arranger from 1958 to 1961, honing her one-woman cabaret show with orchestra to highlight drama and downplay Dietrich's limited vocal range. Bacharach was married to Angie Dickinson from 1965 to 1980.

NUMBER 7 (AND THE FREUDIAN TYPO RUNNER UP):
[2009/08/03 19:09] Trin McMinnar: EALMATO IEKSOOC
[2009/08/03 19:09] Jude Constantine: oatmeal coockies
[2009/08/03 19:09] Jude Constantine: cockies
[2009/08/03 19:09] Trin McMinnar: OATMEAL COOKIES

NUMBER 6 (AND THE FREUDIAN TYPO AWARD):
[2009/08/06 10:53] Maggie Sewell: 25) WHAT IS ANOTHER NAME GIVEN TO THE PAINTING 'LA GIOCONDA'?
[2009/08/06 10:53] Trebor Shelman: moan;klils
[2009/08/06 10:53] Maggie Sewell: MONA LISA
MONA LISA (ALSO KNOWN AS LA GIOCONDA) IS A 16TH CENTURY PORTRAIT PAINTED IN OIL ON A POPLAR PANEL BY LEONARDO DA VINCI DURING THE ITALIAN RENAISSANCE. THE WORK IS OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF FRANCE AND IS ON THE WALL IN THE LOUVRE IN PARIS, FRANCE WITH THE TITLE PORTRAIT OF LISA GHERARDINI, WIFE OF FRANCESCO DEL GIOCONDO. IT IS PERHAPS THE MOST FAMOUS PAINTING IN THE WORLD.

NUMBER 5 (ALWAYS GUESS CVnada):
[20:10] Zelliah Cookie: 15. Which country did America attempt to invade in the War of 1812?
[20:10] WannaBeA Werefox: CVnada
[20:11] Zelliah Cookie: Canada!

NUMBER 4 (HOW MANY POINTS DO YOU GET IF YOU SPELL IT LIKE THIS?):
[2009/08/02 13:47] Sinnamon Sands: 9). IN 1931 ARCHITECT ALFRED M. BUTTS DEVELOPED THIS BOARD GAME, CALLING IT "CRISSCROSSWORDS." NAME IT.
[2009/08/02 13:47] Chaddington Boomhauer: scarbaler
[2009/08/02 13:47] shishi Ruby: scrabblde
[2009/08/02 13:47] Sinnamon Sands: Correct answer is "Scrabble"

NUMBER 3 (AND THE WORD OF THE WEEK):
[2009/08/05 21:21] Circe Falta: 13. TO WHAT ANIMAL DOES THE TERM "PACHYDERM" USUALLY REFER?
[2009/08/05 21:21] Lothor Vlodovic: elephan
[2009/08/05 21:21] Rain Ninetails: elepahnt
[2009/08/05 21:22] Circe Falta: ELEPHANT. THE WORD MEANS "THICK SKIN" AND WAS USED TO DESCRIBE UNGULATES LIKE ELEPHANTS AND HIPPOS, HORSES, TAPIRS, RHINOS, PIGS, AND PECCARIES TOO. BASICALLY, ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FAMILY FOR AT THE TIME AND HAD STRANGE HOOVED FEET GOT SHOVED INTO THE "PACHYDERM" CATEGORY.

[2009/08/05 21:33] Circe Falta: 18. WHAT DO CIRCUS FOLK OFTEN BRAID INTO BRACELETS TO WEAR DURING PERFORMANCES?
[2009/08/05 21:33] Lothor Vlodovic: lelephnat hair
[2009/08/05 21:34] Circe Falta: ELEPHANT HAIR. THEY BRAID ELEPHANT TAIL HAIR INTO BRACELETS TO WEAR DURING PERFORMANCES AS GOOD LUCK CHARMS. HOPEFULLY THEY CLEAN IT OFF FIRST.

[2009/08/06 19:01] Honey Potez: What animal produces the loudest sound of any animal?
[2009/08/06 19:02] Rhea Neiro: elenapht
[2009/08/06 19:02] Honey Potez: AFRICAN ELEPHANT

NUMBER 2 (AND THE IRONY AWARD):
[2009/08/06 18:53] Honey Potez: What was the nationality of Charles Darwin?
[2009/08/06 18:53] Browman Griffith: englsuih
[2009/08/06 18:53] Askytyleon Proudfoot: elnhgle
[2009/08/06 18:53] Rach Borkotron: engliahs
[2009/08/06 18:53] Honey Potez: ENGLISH

NUMBER 1:
[14:41] Cully Andel: THE TITANIC BELONGED TO WHICH SHIPPING LINE?
[14:41] Gareth8 Albatros: White Star
[14:41] Mark007 Bloobury: wahite star
[14:41] Cully Andel: GARETH THEN MARK
[14:41] Cully Andel: IT WAS SHITE STAR
[14:41] Cully Andel: OOPS
[14:41] Cully Andel: WHITE STAR:)
[14:42] Cully Andel: WELL IT DID SINK!

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
[2009/08/07 10:13] Gingo Gumbo: Q3: BAM! POW!! WHOOSH!!! WHAT IS CALLED WHEN A WORD SOUNDS LIKE THE ACTION IT DESCRIBES?
[2009/08/07 10:13] Xes Borkotron: onomatopoeia
[2009/08/07 10:13] Lette Ponnier: onomatopeia
[2009/08/07 10:13] Cully Andel: onomatopaeia
[2009/08/07 10:13] Becki Verne: onomatopaeia
[2009/08/07 10:13] Circe Falta: onopotopoiea
[2009/08/07 10:13] Kaele Jinx: onamatpoea
[2009/08/07 10:13] WavingMarcel Floresby: onomatopoeic
[2009/08/07 10:13] Rain Ninetails: onomonopea
[2009/08/07 10:13] Tom127 Rayna: onomatophoa
[2009/08/07 10:14] Gingo Gumbo: XES!
[2009/08/07 10:14] Joni Villota: onomonopiea
[2009/08/07 10:14] Becki Verne: onamatopaeia
[2009/08/07 10:14] Mark007 Bloobury: onmatoachmenidijad
[2009/08/07 10:14] Gingo Gumbo: A: ONOMOTOPOEIA
One example: The B. F. Goodrich Company coined the name Zipper in 1923 for the line of rubber overshoes that it made using a new type of fastener. The name slowly came to be associated with the fastener itself, and eventually acquired generic status. The word "zipper" describes the sound the fastener makes.
[2009/08/07 10:20] Gingo Gumbo: Onomatopoeia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[2009/08/07 10:21] Gingo Gumbo: Q4: THE PRACTICE OF EXPLORING CAVES SEEMS, TO SOME, AS SILLY AS THE NAME GIVEN TO IT. WHAT IS THAT NAME?
[2009/08/07 10:21] Xes Borkotron: spelunking
[2009/08/07 10:21] Circe Falta: speulunking
[2009/08/07 10:21] Rain Ninetails: spelunming
[2009/08/07 10:21] JoshuaStephen Schism: spelunkingh
[2009/08/07 10:21] Gingo Gumbo: XES, UNDISPUTABLY
[2009/08/07 10:21] Becki Verne: spelunomatopoeia
[2009/08/07 10:22] Gingo Gumbo: A: SPELUNKING
The average number of reported cave related incidents is usually 40 to 50 per year. In most years approximately 10 percent of reported accidents result in death.

[2009/08/07 10:23] Gingo Gumbo: Q5: WHAT IS THE CHEMICAL EFFECT THAT CAUSES WINT-O-GREEN LIFE SAVERS TO SHOOT SPARKS WHEN YOU BITE DOWN ON THEM IN THE DARK?
[2009/08/07 10:24] Becki Verne: triboluminescence
[2009/08/07 10:24] Gingo Gumbo: BECKI!
[2009/08/07 10:24] Maggie Sewell: Onomatopoeialuminescence
[2009/08/07 10:24] Mark007 Bloobury: luminoelectricpneumoescence
[2009/08/07 10:25] Gingo Gumbo: A: TRIBOLUMINESCENCE
The emission of light resulting from something being smashed or torn. It is the same phenomenon, not static, that makes a roll of tape "spark".

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Saturday, August 8, 2009

Money, money, money, money... Money.

This is the first of what I hope will be more joint topic posts that I make with Lotus Ceriano at her awesome blog, Lotus-Pocus. We were chatting about topics and discovered we were both thinking of posting about money, and after a brief spell of, "You go ahead," "No, you go ahead," we found we were going to be addressing pretty different aspects of the same general theme. So I'm taking on the players' side, and she's going to be discussing the club owners' side. Hopefully we'll be finishing up near enough in time that these can be read together.

Front: Hacob Hollwood and Hilda Static. Back: Niina Jenvieve, me, and Sinnamon Sands. "Win Thorn's Money" trivia at Double Standards

From the Ground Up

Not all trivia in SL is played for money. Gogomodo proliferates in many nooks and crannies, and... well, I can't really think of any other common examples. So I guess it won't be off the mark to say that nearly all trivia in SL is played for money. When I was a poor noob, my first friend and mentor took me to a dance club with a trivia orb running, and I pretty much swept the game, L$5 at a time. Since the noob wardrobe is typically substandard, and the "Best in..." contests this friend pretty much thrived on were beyond my reach, trivia quickly became my primary source of income, and that remains the case today.

The amount of money a game pays off matters, but how much does it matter? Who does it matter to, and why? Does it stand on its own as a factor or does it interact with others in building the sense of a game?

It might be because club Shiraz is the place I've been attending the longest and still the most often, or it might be because of the whole range of payouts across the trivia landscape, but I sort of see L$20 per question as a baseline, and before I began spreading out in order to write up new games for this blog, any game that paid less than L$20 didn't really capture my attention. It wasn't just that the money wasn't worth my time but that I almost didn't take such games seriously. Money attracts competition, and it's a lot more fun to win money when you're beating out speed demons and brainiacs than when you're beating out folks who aren't really either. One might say I grew out of the L$5-per-question stage.

I'm not so much of a snob these days; there are some games paying out L$10 or L$15 that are a lot of fun and worth going to, and there are some (well, one, really) that pays out well but, frankly, isn't that high on the joy scale. Obviously, every game is a balance of factors: quality of the questions, effectiveness of the format, personality of the host(s), atmosphere of the location, friendliness of the crowd, and -- last but not least -- money. If a place is strong enough where all those other factors are concerned, then you can have a bunch of friends kvetching around a gogomodo board (or several), earning no money but running up a location's team score. But those scenarios are rare, and winnings, I'd suggest, aren't just a draw because people like money but because the presence of money changes the balance of all of those factors.

I pretty much stuck to Shiraz over my first summer in SL, only branching out gradually. Come fall, though, I was starting to discover that elsewhere, I could win enough not just for a couple of cute dresses a week but to rent a home. AllieKatt Knipper's games, with their healthy bonuses, Thorn's with the first three-winner format I'd played, and eventually Chadd and Shale's first Shotgun games (at which I won only one question at the first game, but it was for something like L$800 and was about sashimi [you don't forget your first L$800 question]), gave me a new perspective on how cash can alter the fabric of a game. By December, I'd begun going to Marine Park and had reached trivia winnings nirvana.

Marine Park Mardi Gras, February 27, where players got paid not only for trivia but for telling ghost stories, flashing their boobs, and dressing for the Bests contest. (Sorry, too long ago for me to remember who is pictured here.)

No Post on Winnings is Complete Without Talking About...

I was winning too much to spend, actually, and that's one of the reasons I collaborated with Thorn to develop the Buccaneer Bowl, began paying for questions at Chaos (the truth or dare challenge was the only prize offered there for the first five or six months it was running), and eventually started conducting spontaneous trivia games in Impromptu Garden.

For those who are still unfamiliar with the enigma that is Marine Park, it is a long-running, three-winner trivia venue where the prizes are a minimum of L$300/200/100 per question and sometimes more. There is an entrance fee (L$100 lately), and you can't always find it by searching for "trivia"; you need to type in "Marine Park," and events are added and deleted regularly. People have mostly discovered it by word of mouth, and many go only once and decide the money isn't worth it to return, or that the stress over trying to make their entrance fee back isn't worth it. Others become addicted. (/me raises hand)

When people hear about MP and its winnings for the first time, they often ask, "How can money like that not be worth it? Worth what?" Well. Let me try being diplomatic about this. They're strict. They have very rigid rules of conduct that drain the game of any kind of social element it might otherwise have, and -- I'd say this is an even stronger aspect -- they create a nerve-wracking (for some) atmosphere with a patently hierarchical and socially segregated host/guest structure and an infamous tendency to ban people arbitrarily, with no explanation, and with no opportunity for recourse. And they seem to be completely oblivious that there's anything odd or questionable about that.

The funny thing is, all of this added to the excitement of the game there for me. The winnings raised the stakes and made the competition feel more fierce, even when I found myself scrambling to answer questions like, "What is your favorite animal?" Even the rules (speaking during the trivia is discouraged, for instance) and the owner's tendency to spring the next question without warning contributed to a more thrilling game. You frequently hear people say they attend Marine Park games "just for the money," but I believe the money element operates not only directly but indirectly, and that it is the indirect impact that is or was stronger for some of us. It draws in some of SL's best players, which makes a successful game that much more exciting, and although it makes the atmosphere tense, it also makes the atmosphere serious. I've never had qualms with the silence rule (though I have major qualms with their means of enforcing it) and think it contributes positively to MP's MP-ness, even as it becomes something people "put up with" because they want the cash.

Lillian Shippe, Bucc Bowl banker

Such a Thing As Too Much?

I certainly hope that there aren't equivalent aspects of Bucc Bowl that people put up with because they simply want the cash. I can't do a similar kind of analysis about the effects of money on Bucc Bowl because I don't experience it as a player, but there are a few things that were important to me in designing the format. First, we decided to make it high-paying because unlike most games, players need to make the full two-hour time commitment -- they can't just pop in and out as they wish -- and we wanted to make that time commitment worth their while. There is also some pre-game organization required of not only planners but players as well, and so it seemed appropriate to reward that effort. Second, after the extremely laggy first game and the institution of ARC bonuses, we were pleased to find that it relieves a concern we originally had: that it would be possible for people to make that entire time commitment and work to put a team together and still leave empty-handed. Now, if anyone does leave with nothing, it's only because they decided to prioritize appearance (at a game where many people turn their rendering off anyway) over sim performance.

But there is another side of giving away a lot of money that I've framed positively in this post but that not everyone necessarily sees as a good thing: money, as I've noted several times, draws competition. And although I love the adrenaline rush that increased competition gives me, I recognize that for some people, there is such a thing as too much. Although we get a lot of positive accolades for Bucc Bowl, as well as some constructive criticism, the one recurring complaint is that it's very stressful. Teams invest a lot of work and strategy in choosing players, and they don't want to make a poor showing, more for the sake of their teams than for themselves. Many people want to attend for the first time without playing, in order to see what the big deal is before committing to a team, but the sim's avatar capacity makes it difficult to grant every request. I believe that the fact that your performance affects not only yourself but your teammates, as well, is probably the most significant factor in the stress level, but the money once again plays both a direct and an indirect part. It shapes the game's atmosphere, for better or for worse, and I honestly can't see Bucc Bowl functioning for less than L$10,000 per game (the minimum total payout if there are no ties and no one complies with the ARC bonus).

We've created something that I acknowledge might be just as nerve-wracking as Marine Park, but for entirely different reasons (I, for instance, am capable of scrolling through chat to find the three winners out of 35 players while people are socializing). With games like these, I'll be the first to admit that it's kind of nice sometimes just to go to a 20-question, L$20 game, relax, and hang out when there's nothing on the line but your own pride in getting an answer in first. Nonetheless, in my case, the only reason I'm able to relax in this way is that I saved up enough money before being banned from MP that I now see the winnings elsewhere as merely symbolic, and I usually tip most or all of it back.

But I can only speak for myself. Here are the questions I asked at the beginning of this post, once more: The amount of money a game pays off matters, but how much does it matter? Who does it matter to, and why? Does it stand on its own as a factor or does it interact with others in building the sense of a game?

What do you think?

Lemmings: the official mascot of SL trivia. Cinna "The Lemming" Xaris in foreground; AnaMaria "every day is Thorn day" Quintessa and Chaddington "I like to watch lemmings" Boomhauer in background.


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Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Event Profile: Dino's 4th Dimension

DuveteuxAngel Islay (right) hosts

So... this was an interesting one.

Winner take all, L$500 prize, twenty questions, and you send your answer to host DuveteuxAngel Islay in IM. You have sixty seconds to do so after she asks the question -- all of them are multiple choice -- and although she shares the correct answer after the time is up, she neither announces who won each question nor tells you personally. Although you can keep track of your own correct answers, you have no way of knowing how you stand compared with others.

She occasionally asks everyone to teleport friends in, despite the winner-take-all payout format. If you do so, and the club fills up with at least fifteen people, she'll double the prize for the game, which is good news for those already there, but it's uncertain whether this creates any incentive for those you are persuading to arrive late.

At the beginning of the game, I mentioned that I came because of the listing for the trivia event, and she was very, very excited, calling the trivia her "little baby." I recognized a few other familiar trivia faces but only one who stayed for the entire game. Pop music flowed through the stream, and people danced, while there was very little interaction in local chat. Every so often, Duve commented on it but said she liked it because it meant 1) people were IMing her their answers, and 2) there was more room for her to talk.

Sample questions:

[2009/08/04 14:59] DuveteuxAngel Islay: 9. Other than Marlon Brando which other actor has played the part of Vito Corleone in the Godfather series?
A. Robert De Niro B. Al Pacino C. James Caan D. Robert Duvall

[2009/08/04 15:16] DuveteuxAngel Islay: 12. This boxer holds the record for youngest professional debut:
A. Jimmy Young B. Sean O'Grady C. Baby Arizmendi D.Jack Dempsey

She didn't mention in the rules whether she would be counting all correct answers or only the first one she received, but it turned out to be the former. Lucy Torok and I tied with the most correct answers out of twenty, and Duve gave us a tiebreak question for just the two of us (Lucy won). This game had an uncommon format, to say the least, with both pros and cons attached.



The cons are probably more obvious: a winner-take-all game might be fun for casual players who would come to the club anyway but is frustrating for those who rely on their trivia winnings for their SL income. Spending two hours playing and leaving with nothing (or in the hole, after tips) isn't the usual rhythm for "serious" "trivia people," and I believe few of us would go to a game with that system on a regular basis unless there were a draw other than the trivia or unless you consistently win, but seeing only one person win week after week will end up being frustrating for all the others. Hence, the potential for that to happen is another con: imagine the animosity that would probably develop toward a consistently winning Bucc Bowl team if the game were winner-take-all.

I am undecided on the matter of IMing answers to the host rather than responding in local chat. I will acknowledge that it worked better for this particular game than it has for others I've attended with that practice. The major problem with IMed answers is usually that unless the host closes out all of his or her IM windows in between every question, there is no reliable way to see who answered first. At Dino's, you don't have to be first for your answer to count; you simply have to answer within sixty seconds. This does, of course, create both time and incentive for players to use google, but whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of perspective. Duve didn't ask players not to google, and one person admitted to doing so on one question, but judging by the game's results, it seemed not to have been a popular choice, since the high scores were fifteen, and mine was one of them.

My biggest gripe about IMing answers, though, is that it eliminates the social aspect among players during questions. You don't get the chance to brainstorm tough ones or to laugh at each other's typos. You don't get to show off your topic strengths and observe those of others. These are some of the elements of a good trivia event that make it not just a mental test but a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Even at Marine Park, where socializing between questions is prohibited, there is a separate level of communication taking place during the questions themselves, when you can watch others' thought processes, find yourself copying the most ludicrous answers, and IM with other players about controversial results. Games that lack interaction like this are missing a part of what I, for one, look forward to when I go to trivia.

There are some pros to this uncoventional game format, as well, but they're all specific to this context and probably wouldn't work so well elsewhere. First, the fact that the questions are multiple choice makes it more likely that people will answer in IM at all. It gives people permission to guess. When I have been to other IM-answer games in the past, I've felt a lot of pressure not to respond with stupid answers. Mind you, multiple choice questions in local chat, when more than one answer is permitted, are fail. They're simply fail. They just shouldn't be done. But when one of those two conditions isn't present, they can sometimes work. For instance, switching to multiple choice at my strip trivia yesterday actually seemed to enhance the game (only one answer was allowed), and I have no complaints about its use by Duve (you can change your answer, but only the last answer you've given when she calls time will be accepted).

Second, this occurred to me right at the end of the game, when I was relieved to find that I'd done well but not ridiculously well: giving answers in IM means that the likelihood of getting plinked the first time you come to a new game is low. This means that I never felt like holding back my answers when I knew them, whereas when there are very few other hardcore players around in an open chat game, I like to do well without being too conspicuous. I call out plinking at Shiraz, Blaizing Inferno, or Double Standards, but plinking that takes place on otherwise non-trivia turf is understandable, and I'd rather not court it.

Overall, it was an interesting experience. Tuesdays are a really busy trivia day now, though for what reason I have no idea. If you go, make sure you get there on time so that you're there for all of the questions. L$500 is a nice little bundle to go home with.


The specs:
==> Time/Day: Tuesdays, 2:00 to 4:00pm, though Duve is off next week, so look for the next one on August 18.
==> Location: Dino's 4th Dimension, http://slurl.com/secondlife/Franks%20Place%204/87/101/30
==> Host: DuveteuxAngel Islay
==> Prizes: L$500 plus a 50% off gift certificate good at over 50 stores, only one winner per game

Answers to sample questions:

#9:
[2009/08/04 15:02] DuveteuxAngel Islay: The story begins as "Don" Vito Corleone, the head of a New York Mafia "family", oversees his daughter's wedding. His beloved son Michael has just come home from the war, but does not intend to become part of his father's business. Through Michael's life the nature of the family business becomes clear. The business of the family is just like the head of the family, kind and benevolent to those who give respect, but given to ruthless violence whenever anything stands against the good of the family. Don Vito lives his life in the way of the old country, but times are changing and some don't want to follow the old ways and look out for community and "family". An up and coming rival of the Corleone family wants to start selling drugs in New York, and needs the Don's influence to further his plan. The clash of the Don's fading old world values and the new ways will demand a terrible price, especially from Michael, all for the sake of the family.

#12:
[2009/08/04 15:19] DuveteuxAngel Islay: Alberto Arizmendi, AKA Baby Arizmendi (March 17, 1914 – December 31, 1963) was a featherweight and welterweight boxer who is famous for being the youngest boxer to turn pro. He got the nickname "Baby" from the smile he always had on his face. He fought his first pro fight at age 13 and never looked back. Baby used a charging, bruising style, making him a very strong two-fisted fighter. He won his first title in November of 1931 when he won the Mexican bantamweight title. With victories over such names as Fidel LaBarba, Baby established himself as a worthy contender for the featherweight crown. Unfortunately, Arizmendi was beaten by Freddie Miller in a 10-round bout for the featherweight crown. However, Arizmendi didn't give up, as he defeated Mike Belloise for the New York state featherweight crown. On January 2, 1935, Arizmendi won one of 5 bouts with Henry Armstrong for the Mexican featherweight title. His last bout with Armstrong was his last shot for a World title, where he dropped a 10-round decision.

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Monday, August 3, 2009

Typos of the Week, July 26 through August 1

Some of these are nominations people sent me while I was away, so they might have happened in the previous week, but I'm pulling blogger's prerogative and including them here indiscriminately. There was a surprising dearth of typos at the games I went to this week, so it balances out.


10. [12:22] Lludmila Mirrikh: faminog
[12:23] kattatonia Wickentower: apink bidrflamingo

9. [19:41] Hilda Static: palnes trains airtomponboe;s

8. [13:33] Sweejen Stourmead: japloemnpohno

7. [19:56] Edmond Oconnell: caranvererrie'

6. [19:21] Askytyleon Proudfoot: COTOTM BOJTH

5. [18:34] Celeste Wisent: babnanbrea

4. [18:42] Lotus Ceriano: withering hjeoingts

3. [20:32] Karmel Kips: frpots

2. [17:12] JoshuaStephen Schism: bnloolywood

1. [10:59] Trebor Shelman: chjlotyl
[10:59] Chaddington Boomhauer: choorlcyu

Trin McMinnar hosting trivia at club Shiraz with Browman Griffith loyally protecting her feet.

10. [12:22] Kghia Gherardi: What did Alice use as a croquet mallet when playing with the queen?
[12:22] Lludmila Mirrikh: faminog
[12:23] kattatonia Wickentower: apink bidrflamingo
FLAMINGO

9. [19:40] Trin McMinnar: You're like one of those Chatty Cathy dolls, except I'm not pulling the string, you are. Blah! Blah! Blah!
[19:41] Hilda Static: palnes trains airtomponboe;s
PLANES, TRAINS & AUTOMOBILES

8. [13:33] Sinnamon Sands: 5). WHAT HOT PEPPER IS NAMED AFTER THE CAPITAL OF THE STATE OF VERACRUZ?
[13:33] Sweejen Stourmead: japloemnpohno
JALAPENO

7. [19:56] Jynks Clawtooth shouts: Blueberries and Concord grapes are 2 of the 3 fruits native to North America; name the 3rd?
[19:56] Edmond Oconnell: caranvererrie'
CRANBERRY

6. [19:21] Honey Potez: What's a water moccasin often called, due to the white inside its mouth?
[19:21] Askytyleon Proudfoot: COTOTM BOJTH
COTTONMOUTH

5. [18:34] Trin McMinnar: Flour, butter,vanilla, very old bananas-What am I making?
[18:34] Celeste Wisent: babnanbrea
BANANA BREAD

4. WUTHERING HEIGHTS

3. [20:32] Liriel Garnet: What American poet wrote: "Good fences make good neighbors"?
[20:32] Karmel Kips: frpots
(ROBERT) FROST

2. [17:11] Cinna Xaris: 12 - WHAT IS THE INFORMAL TERM FOR THE HINDU FILM INDUSTRY BASED IN MUMBAI?
[17:12] JoshuaStephen Schism: bnloolywood
BOLLYWOOD

1. [10:59] Thornton Writer: Q19) Fungi lack what green coloring matter that plants use to make food?
[10:59] Trebor Shelman: chjlotyl
[10:59] Chaddington Boomhauer: choorlcyu
CHLOROPHYLL